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Gay Marriage – Fox Carolina Interview with McKrae Game

Fox CarolinaASHEVILLE, NC (FOX Carolina) –

Robert Carver and John Griffin have been a couple for 33 years, and they said they were “ecstatic” to learn they could soon make that union legally binding, possibly this week.

“I just wanted to cry,” said Robert Carver.

The U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to not hear appeals in five states is opening the door for the legalization of same-sex unions in North and South Carolina as both states’ bans are directly affected by the same appellate ruling that came down in Julywhen Virginia’s same-sex ban was overturned.

Carver and Griffin live in Buncombe County, where officials said may start allowing same-sex marriages in a matter of days.

South Carolina’s potential for allowing same-sex marriages is still pending,according to the State Attorney General. Many in the state still oppose same-sex marriage for religious reasons, including McKrae Game, president of Hope for Wholeness Network.

“Yes, I am opposed to same sex marriage, because it does not go along with a Biblical framework,” said Game, whose organization works with people who struggle with what they call “same-sex attraction” and choose not to act on it.

Game, who said he left the gay lifestyle in 1991, said he was able to do so through his faith in Jesus Christ.

“I still have same sex attractions, but it’s not how I define myself,” said Game.

Game said he is married to a woman, and while his organization does not protest gay pride parades or festivals, it does not support same-sex marriage.

Carver and Griffin said with Monday’s decision, they will no longer be “second-class citizens.”

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  • Court clears the way for gay marriage expansion

    By MARK SHERMAN
    Associated PressWASHINGTON (AP) – The Supreme Court unexpectedly cleared the way Monday for a dramatic expansion of gay marriage in the United States and may have signaled that it’s only a matter of time before same-sex couples can marry in all 50 states.

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Exodus International Shuts Down & Closes Its Doors

20130620-141254.jpgExodus International Shuts Down & Closes Its Doors

After 38 years of proclaiming “change is possible” to the gay community and the church, Exodus International announced last night that they are closing their doors. The news was released during the opening address given by Alan Chambers, president of Exodus International, at the 38th annual conference in Irvine, CA.

Christian Ministry Apologizes To LGBT Community And Halts Operations

I was sitting in the second row, aware that the news was about to break. Exodus leaders were informed well in advance, so this was not shocking.

There have been such radical shifts in Exodus’ direction over the last 18 months that I did not believe that the Exodus network could survive.

Alan’s heart had been pierced for those in the gay community and especially those that said, “This “therapy didn’t work.” Tuesday, an apology letter was released to the general public via a press release that was shown to the Exodus leadership some time ago, many of us in ministry including myself, found much disagreement with.

The Lisa Ling show will air tonight with a circle of “ex-gay survivors” surrounding Alan and Leslie Chambers, sharing their hurt and anger towards Exodus and saying it should be shut down. As an FYI, the apology letter was shared with the participants on the Lisa Ling show.

I told Alan about three weeks ago that I had the intention to create the Hope For Wholeness Network (HFW), to fill the need that I saw with all the falling out over messaging with organizations that are helping individuals wanting help, but feeling they could not agree with its direction. Today, the new network seems much more than an option for ministries and individuals seeking freedom from homosexuality to live according to God’s design.

Personally, as a participant over 20 years ago, I never had a negative experience with Exodus International or its affiliates, at least through my local ministry. I walked into the local Exodus ministry, not even knowing it was a part of Exodus. Truth Ministry, the organization I lead that HFW is now a part of, has for a number of years now, replaced the Exodus local outreach. I was never promised change in attraction and it was not a goal of mine or a goal even implied. I wanted to leave homosexuality behind and one day get married, as many of my clients do in the ministry I lead today. Growing as a man in Christ was my focus. This remains the guiding strength of the outreach of Truth Ministry and now, for the Hope For Wholeness Network.

I am at the conference, leading the prayer team, sharing my story, and teaching a class on having a successful marriage, based on absolute transparency and Godly service.

If you have not seen my video blog Exodus Closing, I would encourage you to watch as I share much of this and more. I encourage you to watch Alan’s address, if you haven’t already, and the Lisa Ling show tonight at 8:00pm on the OWN channel (Oprah’s Network). Exodus closing is not something I have a position for or against, but I see Alan’s points and those that are very angry at Exodus for its past history that promised an attraction change. I also understand those that feel hurt, abandoned by the closure and outraged over this and language shared at the Gay Christian Network and other venues.

The Hope For Wholeness Network was created as an outreach for those seeking to submit their entire lives to their Creator, for Him alone to define, and to work with ministries, churches, and counselors that are equipped to share and walk along side these hurting men, women, and families.

God’s word tells us in Isaiah, “Behold, I am doing a new thing” that “the people whom I formed for myself that they might declare my praise.” (Isaiah 43:21 ESV)

For more information, I encourage you to visit our website at www.hopeforwholeness.org. And of course, if you have any questions, please feel free to contact me personally.


Source: McKrae Game Blog

By McKrae Game

  • Local Woman, 70 “God Helped Her Overcome Homosexuality”

Local Woman, 70 “God Helped Her Overcome Homosexuality”

By Lynn Davidson of The Augusta Chronicle
AUGUSTA, GA (September 04, 2011) – Elsie Odom has a stranger in her closet. But the two are well-acquainted.

Odom, now 70, was a lesbian for many years before she learned what she calls “the truth.” These days, Odom uses that stranger’s experiences to help others who are unhappy in the homosexual lifestyle.
“(From the age of 14 to 47) I struggled with it. And in 1988, God set me free. I’ve had no desires since then – none whatsoever. And it has nothing to do with my age,” she said. “I don’t even know who that person was anymore.”

Dressed in a pretty green dress with lavender floral print, matching lavender beaded necklace and dainty white sandals, Odom looks like a traditional Southern grandmother who sits on the third row of church every Sunday and hosts the garden club on Monday.

But the women of her childhood had a vastly different influence.

“I lived in a very dysfunctional family,” she said. “My parents didn’t show love because they didn’t know how. They were alcoholics.”
Because of the alcoholism, Odom said she was isolated from her peers, ashamed and bashful. Her childhood also included several traumatic experiences of molestation from extended family members, both male and female. Odom said she feels the childhood experiences caused her to reject her femininity.
Dr. Lionel Solursh, a professor of psychiatry and health behavior at Georgia Health Sciences University, said that is one reaction to childhood sexual abuse.
“If you’re afraid of sexual experiences, or mistrustful, the one thing you do is back off from intimacy because it feels dangerous,” Solursh said.
Solursh said a therapist in a case similar to Odom’s would work with the patient to cope with their trauma history so they would be able to have relationships. However, he cautioned that each individual is different, and Odom’s situation cannot be applied to all homosexuals.

“We look at individual factors,” he said. “Each person deserves the respect of being seen and treated as an individual.”

But Odom knew nothing of therapy when she was young.

Puberty came along, and Odom said she was sexually attracted to other girls, which confused her.

“Eventually, I went with them,” she said. “I was dating guys, but also acted out those feelings with girls.”

One day, she went on a blind date with a young man, and he proposed.

“So, I thought I could get married, and that’d fix things,” Odom said, saying that she told her fiancé about her homosexuality before they married. “I tried very hard to make the marriage work.”

Several years later, going through divorce and losing a child custody battle was more than Odom could bear.

“In order to cover the pain, I lived a hellish life,” she said. “I tried to heal my pain with alcohol and drugs, and I actually became an alcoholic. And I was looking for love in all the wrong places.”

She found it in a relationship with another woman. The two ended up living together for 14 years, first posing as roommates, then in an openly lesbian relationship.

“We started going to gay bars and parties, and were accepted into the gay community,” she said. “We felt fulfilled with this new family we’d found.”

When Odom’s partner gave the ultimatum that she needed to deal with her alcoholism, Odom started going to Alcoholics Anonymous meetings.

At the meetings, she found deliverance from her alcoholism. Because some steps of the AA program suggest looking to a higher power, Odom’s partner bought her a Bible.

When she read the Bible, Odom said she learned that the Bible says homosexuality is a sin.

That was something Odom had never heard before, and as a result, Odom and her partner began looking for a church. After several failed attempts, they found one.

“When we walked in the door, we felt the love of God, and we both needed that,” Odom said. “From that day on, every time the doors opened, we were there.”

In church, Odom heard other new things she’d never known.

“I began to hear that God is not mad. He will take the rubbish of your life and make stepping stones to His destiny,” Odom said.

Claiming that the Holy Spirit separated her and her partner both emotionally and physically, Odom said she took up a celibate lifestyle, which she has kept for 23 years.

“But if God wants to bring me a husband, I will accept him,” she said with a smile.

Solursh said it’s possible that someone who is not happy with homosexuality, or who left the lifestyle, was never actually gay.

“We are not talking about a disease or a disorder. We are talking about behavior,” he said. “I know a lot of happy gay folks.”

For patients who are not happy, Solursh said a therapist works with them to help them manage their feelings and make them comfortable.

“But, if somebody is gay and happy, then he’s happy,” he said.

Odom said she wants to help people who are unhappy like she was. In April 2010, she founded a ministry called Straight Forward, which is a referral ministry of Hope for Wholeness – a nondenominational faith-based organization whose mission is to help people who want to be free of same-sex attractions.

“I have a burden in my heart,” Odom said. “I want others who are struggling to know there is hope for them.”

Contact
Elsie Odom
Director of StraightForward Ministries
706-840-2227
E-mail: eodom@hopeforwholeness.org

Hope is Spreading A Ministry Update

SPARTANBURG, SC (July 15, 2011) – For three years, Hope For Wholeness has been a daily activity around here. These three years prepared us for the day of beginning, much like a runner trains for a race for a long period of time. We had to alter many of the things we did on a daily basis in our office to make accommodations, but the sacrifices were worth being able to reach people in unreached areas around the world with the news of freedom from homosexuality through Jesus Christ.

Since the launch date, we have gotten many orders from churches and Exodus ministries around the country. Hope is spreading to Kansas, Texas, Virginia, Colorado, California, Florida, and beyond. However, we have not heard from many of our readers. Frankly, this project has been a huge drain on us financially. As you can imagine, the current recession in our country causes ministries like ours to struggle financially. However, instead of focusing on our need, we want to emphasize what we have to offer. You can help us get the word out that Hope for Wholeness is available.

First, you could send in a gift to help us during this time. Please prayerfully consider what you can do. Second, get a copy of HFW for yourself, or for a friend, family member, or your church. The card included will help you with this. Lastly, be sure to visit our updated website at www.hopeforwholeness.com and talk about it to as many people as you can. Visit our Facebook page via the link on the website and “Like” us on Facebook. Also, tell your friends by email or by an old-fashioned ways of communication. However you choose to share, we really need your help to get the word out. We are counting on you.

Albert Mohler: Homosexuality Comments reflect Scripture

Albert Mohler’s follow-up comments to SBC Convention

LOUISVILLE, KY (June 24, 2011) – Seminary president R. Albert Mohler Jr. says comments he made about homosexuality at the Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting reflect biblical teaching, and his remarks are receiving support from two prominent evangelical leaders who minister to the homosexual community.

In his June 15 comments at the SBC meeting, Mohler — president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky. — said Christians have “not done well on this issue,” have told only “half the truth” regarding homosexuality and have practiced a “certain form of homophobia.” He went on to say it’s “clear that it’s more than a choice” and is “not something that people can just turn on and turn off.” He also was clear in calling homosexuality a sin.

“We are not a Gospel people unless we understand that only the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ gives a homosexual person any hope of release from homosexuality,” Mohler told messengers.

The three-plus minute answer — in response to a question by Georgia messenger Peter Lumpkins — has received support from Alan Chambers, president of Exodus International, and from Bob Stith, the Southern Baptist Convention’s national strategist for gender issues and the representative of the convention’s Task Force on Ministry to Homosexuals.

But Mohler’s comments were called confusing in some circles, with others saying they wondered if he had changed his beliefs.

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Apple Suppresses Diversity by Pulling iPhone App

from Exodus International Press Office

ORLANDO, FL (March 25, 2011) – Last night, Apple removed an application submitted by Exodus International, a global Christian ministry helping those struggling with unwanted same-sex attraction to live a life congruent with biblical teaching. Apple told the ministry’s web developer that they deemed the app “offensive to large groups of people” and removed it. Exodus is encouraging people to contact Apple and ask them to recognize the diversity of beliefs within its customer base.

Apple originally approved the app which provided mobile access to the information available on the ministry’s web site and gave it 4+ rating, but pulled it after gay activist groups launched a petition to remove it. It now appears that the multinational corporation has caved, yet again, to their pressure. In November, Apple removed the application submitted by The Manhattan Declaration, a group of Christian leaders who support biblical teaching on marriage, as a result of pressure from the same gay activist groups.

“We are extremely disappointed to learn of Apple’s decision to deny equal representation in the public square,” said Alan Chambers, president of Exodus International. “Discrimination of thought and belief obstructs essential dialogue and authentic diversity,” said Chambers noting that Apple provides hundreds of apps specific to the GLBT community and has made the Gay Christian Network’s podcasts available on its iTunes store.

“Ultimately, this issue comes down to what we, as a culture, believe about equality and the freedom to express our beliefs,” said Chambers. “It is our hope that Apple will reconsider its decision and allow our organization to be part of the ongoing conversation about the challenging issues many face today.”

Exodus Releases iPhone App

SPARTANBURG, SC (March 18, 2011) – Exodus International has released its new smartphone application now available through iTunes!  Receiving a 4+ rating from Apple (applications in this category contain no objectionable material), this application is designed to be a useful resource for men, women, parents, students, and ministry leaders.  With this app, you will find access to:

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Obama Tells Holder to No Longer Defend DOMA Mr. President, You Lie!

McKrae GameSPARTANBURG, SC (March 11, 2011) – By McKrae Game

Recently, we learned of President Obama telling Attorney General Eric Holder that the federal government was to no longer defend the Defense of Marriage Act. He told the Attorney General that he no longer believed that it was constitutional. The first thing I thought, after picking up my jaw, was oh my goodness and then, can we really be surprised by that?

In April 2007, Meleah Allard of Hope for Wholeness WNC traveled with me to D.C. to speak against the pending Hate Crimes legislation, which has since been passed and is now law. The team was made of select leaders from Exodus International, Focus on the Family, and The Family Research Council. We went to every Senator and Congressman on Capitol Hill telling them why we felt that this was not necessary and had inherent dangers behind it. Just as soon as the 2008 elections were over, it was one of the first things passed. Since being enacted, it has not made a big impact on our society or on the church, as feared, but the jury is still out on this.

Prior to that trip, leading up to the November election of 2006, the SC Baptist Convention hired me to represent the convention as their spokesman for the Marriage Amendment. This was to amend the state constitution to define and limit marriage as one man and one woman. It was a sad reality that we needed to defend what had long been considered common sense, however a growing number of states were redefining marriage as anyone that was wishing to enter into a marriage union. The point of the amendment was to utilize the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) to defend the state against the encroachment of gay marriage.

“DOMA is a federal law of the United States, signed by President Bill Clinton on Sept. 21, 1996. Under this law, no state (or other political entity within the United States) needs to treat as a marriage the same-sex relationship considered a marriage in another state (DOMA, Section 2); the federal government defines marriage as a legal union between one man and one woman (DOMA, Section 3). It passed both houses of Congress by large majorities.” (Times Herald Online)

I remember something that Sean Hannity said many times after the 2008 election-“elections have consequences.” He obviously was speaking of the nation voting in leaders who would take us through somewhat uncharted territory. I say somewhat uncharted because this is not the first time that an extremist has taken over the White House and has utilized the power of the government to promote social change.

No one should be surprised by this. When Obama was running for office, some of his classic “O” logos had a US flag in the center, but some on his own website at the time and on pro-gay bumper stickers replaced the flag with a rainbow flag.

On the official White House website, www.whitehouse.gov, there is a list of all of the Obama administration’s accomplishments on Civil Rights. Four out of seven of their listed accomplishments are focused on gay rights.

I personally do not have any problem with, and agree with, partners being able to visit one another in the hospital and leaving property to one another. I personally do not agree with the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, however recognize that there are hundreds and thousands of gays that are serving in the military, despite the regulations, who are fighting for my freedom. As I said earlier, we don’t really know how hate crimes, now called the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Hate Crimes Prevention Act, will affect our society and church. I do not agree with giving federal benefits to gay couples as in a marriage. I don’t believe the federal government can afford to shoulder this additional burden. However, many states have done this because they have accepted that the marriage of a man and woman are the same as two same-sex partners. The White House website page goes on to say, “He supports full civil unions and federal rights for LGBT couples and opposes a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage….and also believes that we must ensure adoption rights for all couples and individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation.”

Our President took the oath of office: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” During Obama’s oath you will remember that he had a problem with saying the oath and had to take it again in a private ceremony with the Chief Justice. His recent remarks regarding DOMA, in hindsight, make this slur of words seem to be a sign of things to come. It makes us wonder, what part of the Constitution is he going to decide to not follow next? What law will he decide for himself that he no longer needs to enforce?

On September 9, 2009, SC Representative Joe Wilson shouted at President Barack Obama while Obama addressed a joint session of Congress to outline his proposal for reforming health care. During his address, Obama said: “There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false – the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.” In a breach of decorum, Wilson pointed at Obama and shouted, “You lie!”. (Wikipedia)

While we don’t know about insuring illegal immigrants (since nearly no one, including Congress, has actually read the health care bill), we do know that our President does not always tell the truth. When he swore to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States”, it seems he had no intention of doing so. Even during the election in speeches and his writings said that the Constitution needed to be rewritten. So, suffice it to say, when Obama spoke of Change-This is what he meant.

Obama would say that people like myself are living in denial. If I had listened to the voices in our world that shout the new age mantra, Be true to yourself, I would have never left the gay lifestyle (following Christ in denial of myself), never gotten married, and never had children.

When I said my vows to my wife, though I am a flawed man and have failed, I intended to fulfill that promise to God and my wife and live daily to do so. I believe when we say that we are going to do something, we do it. When we fail, we get up and we keep going in the direction of that promise. I THANK GOD that the Lord sought me and brought me to my right standing with Him and gave me the family I have. I pray that our President comes to a right understanding of a promise and his office.

FB promises to "end hate speech and anti-gay bullying on the Internet", a growing path toward censorship

Facebook Doesn’t Get Mad, It Gets GLAAD

FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL (October 22, 2010) – If there were a status update for Facebook’s entire site, it might say something like, “Jumping on the politically correct bandwagon.” Last week, the social media giant officially friended the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) to “end hate speech and anti-gay bullying” on the Internet. The new partnership, which made a splash in the mainstream news, is significant because it puts Facebook on the media’s growing path toward censorship. Apparently, anything they construed to be anti-homosexual will be stripped from the site. Where does that leave Americans who morally oppose the lifestyle and want to help people find freedom from it?

FRC and other conservatives may soon find out. According to CNN, the world’s biggest social networking hub will be trolling its pages for violators. “And this isn’t just routine… policing, either,” the reporter cautions. GLAAD will see to that. In a press release about the alliance, the organization is urging liberals to take an active role in shutting down speech. “Our community needs to continue to be vigilant and report instances of hateful comments and images across the site to Facebook moderators as well as post messages of support for gay, bisexual, and transgender youth.”

It may happen slowly, but I guarantee that Facebook will begin to broaden its definition of what’s “hateful” based on GLAAD’s prior actions. Will GLAAD pressure Facebook, as it did the Washington Post, to purge any research about the risks of homosexuality? Will discussions about biblical faith suddenly be considered harassment? And, more importantly, will these standards be applied across the board? The Daily Caller thinks not. In a great post yesterday, Caroline May talks about the site’s hypocrisy. “… [N]ot all threatening language is created equal, apparently,” she writes. “Among Facebook’s many online communities are groups such as ‘I Hate Rush Limbaugh,’ ‘I Can’t Wait for Rush Limbaugh to Die,’ and ‘Rush Limbaugh Should Die Slowly.’ … In an email to The Daily Caller, Facebook spokesman Andrew Noyes did his best to explain why language criticizing homosexuality is hateful and will be censored, while calls for Rush Limbaugh’s slow death are legitimate and allowed.”

But, like the whole “hate crimes” debate, this isn’t about protecting homosexuals. It’s about an orchestrated effort to force Americans into accepting their behavior. If it weren’t, Facebook would have seen through this partnership with GLAAD for the unnecessary publicity stunt that it is. After all, the site already warned users that it wouldn’t tolerate obscene personal attacks–long before Tyler Clementi’s tragic death. Teaming up with GLAAD just shows Facebook’s cowardice. Like the mainstream media, they’re succumbing to pressure to silence free speech. GLAAD is establishing itself as an organization that wants to censor any opposition to its radical agenda. Last week, it tried to intimidate the Washington Post into blacklisting me from the paper because of an op-ed I wrote about the dangers of homosexuality. This is how they define “hateful.” You can read my column on FRC’s Facebook page… at least for now.


Christian Song Artist Jennifer Knapp Declares Gay

Responding to Jennifer Knapp’s “Coming Out”

EXODUS INTERNATIONAL–ORLANDO, FL (April 20, 2010)
by Randy Thomas, Exodus’ Executive Vice President

As you all are probably aware, Jennifer Knapp stated last week that she has embraced her same sex attraction and is now identifying as gay.  She has done a number of interviews including this one with Christian Today.  From the article (Article In Italics):

Now, the finished product (her new album), titled Letting Go, is slated for a May 11 release and will be the first test of her fans’ loyalty given confirmation of her sexuality.

While the decision to “come out” one month before her new album’s release is a risky one, The Advocate said Knapp chose to do so partly because she didn’t want people to love her music and then discover that their own values won’t let them sing along full-throated.

“I think it’s going to be shocking and feel like a betrayal to some people who live their spiritual lives through the music they listen to,” Knapp told the LGBT publication.

Furthermore, the move provides Knapp a chance to be “wholly myself”.

Over the past week or so I have fielded a lot of questions and one interview concerning Jennifer’s decision to “come out.” There has been a lot of conversation with a lot of various viewpoints.  Whether you agree fully with the following quote from this post or not, I thought this was a very interesting insight:

In all this, Jennifer Knapp–the singer and songwriter–will likely be forgotten.  Her status as a person, a person with sinful inclinations that obscure the radiant, recalcitrant image of God, will be pushed to the background as we focus on the only salient fact for us:  that instead of simply being a minor Christian celebrity, she’s now a gay minor Christian celebrity.

Jennifer Knapp, object lesson.   For whatever we want to say.  Objectification happens in many forms–and turning someone into a flash card for our broader spiritual lessons is only one of them.

Of course, such objectification is probably inevitable.  After all, Jennifer Knapp isn’t in your church.  I’m going to guess she’s not reading our blogs.  And she’s probably not your friend.  She exists for most of us only as an icon of that funny phenomenon we call “Christian culture.”  And so because she has lent herself and her music–as all successful musicians must–to the objectifying press-machine that is Nashville, it’s tempting to say that she deserves whatever  she gets.

But that doesn’t mean it’s good, or that it justifies our own objectification of her.  Especially when in every interview I’ve read, she’s expressed reluctance and dismay that her sexuality will be used as a political football.  And she seems, if nothing else, to be properly respectful of her differences with the Christian community.  In other words, she seems to be want to left alone, even if her status as minor gay Christian celebrity doesn’t allow it.

And so maybe, just maybe, we should respect her subjectivity, not turn her into an object lesson, and move on.

Jennifer has made a lot of money and fame in the contemporary Christian music scene.  Just as she rightfully earned her recognition as an amazing artist, she has also earned the scrutiny that comes along with all of that celebrity.  At the same time, we as Christians are called to see beyond the hype and to the real principles being played out on the national stage in front of us. With the Spirit’s help we can consider Jesus’ sacrifice for us corporately and for us individually.  The Spirit will also help us consider Jesus’ sacrifice for Jennifer as well.

One example of the objectification of Jennifer came when someone who was obviously very angry with her decision asked me:

So when do we come to the point of just flat out telling her that her “loving relationship” with this woman isn’t love at all? … that she is offending a Holy God?

I told this person that we need to step back and realize that God is fully aware of Jennifer’s love for her partner.  He understands the legitimate needs seeking to be expressed in both of their hearts and He also, fully understands the reasons why both have turned to sinful behavior to try and meet those needs.  The truth is, Jennifer probably really does love her partner.  We don’t need to minimize or dismiss that.  The beautiful and sometimes tragic nature of love is that we have free will on where and whom to invest it.  Jennifer is investing hers into her partner. This ability to steward love is why God is so jealous for our love, it’s a huge investment of our entire being.  He entrusted that to us with free will so that it would be authentic. Rightly or wrongly, when one invests love in another … that’s an investment of the heart, soul and sometimes body of the person.

A very big deal indeed.

I have a feeling Jennifer isn’t clueless that most Christians believe homosexual behavior is sin.  I just wonder if anyone ever offered to share with her a redemptive view of sexuality instead of being heavy handed on condemning the behavior.  To ask Jennifer to “repent” is to ask her to give up her hard fought battle to reconcile her life to herself.  It’s to ask her to sacrifice two of the biggest investments in her life (her partner and identity.)  That is no small thing and should not be treated lightly.

Temptations, if they are of any worth as temptations, usually latch on to a legitimate need and point to sinful behavior as a way to meet those needs.  However, in Christ, temptations are also an opportunity to recognize legitimate needs and pursue meeting those needs in biblically appropriate ways.  Jesus was tempted in every way but never sinned.  His Spirit can empower us to discover, learn and implement ways to meet our needs and turn away from sin.  Right now, and not knowing her personally, it would seem that Jennifer is seeking to meet her needs in the only way she knows how or feels is an option.  God understands this and I have no doubt is working in her life to provide His redemptive perspective.

Later I thought about this person saying Jennifer was offending a Holy God.  That irritated me at the time and didn’t quite know what to say without getting upset.  So I was silent in the conversation but I wished I had said that instead of God manifesting in all His glowing glory and declaring how offended He is, He manifested as Jesus Christ.  He didn’t cross His golden robed arms, roll His heavenly focused eyes and snarkily guffaw a lightning bolt out of His mouth to express his offense.  A tortured, grieving Jesus willingly outstretched His arms and was nailed to a cross. As He died, He didn’t lament how badly His Bride, His Church, was treating Him.  He asked the Father to forgive us for we know not what we have done.

If anyone had a right to abandon everyone who offended him, Jesus was that person.  But He didn’t.  Instead He paid the highest price possible to forgive us in spite of us.

Jennifer says she knows the Lord.  I assume that is true.  And if it is true, He never lets go.  He wants her and her partner (all of us) to know that He offers a greater love than we could ever imagine or think.  His love outshines any human love and can satiate any soul.

Lord, empower us to invest our love wisely … starting with You. Amen.

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